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FastKnockout » Posted 9/24/10 8:39:00PM

"Enough is enough."

Ali Abdel-Aziz, the executive vice president of World Series of Fighting, is tired of feeling like he is being taken advantage of, and he's apparently putting his foot down.

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JLS » Posted 6/6/12 1:54:00PM

I thought for sure when reading this article that it would be Fitch not wanting to fight but it's not, its. Palhares.
I can't really blame Ali for wanting to put these types of situations to a halt.
Palhares, of all fighters, should not be calling any shots.

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GDPofMPG » Posted 2/22/08 6:29:00PM

Fitch vs Shields is a better fight anyways, long overdue and should of been the fight they were trying to make as soon as Shields was signed.

I wonder what the story will be out of Palhares camp? If he's busted up or something this Aziz guy is going to begin to sound stupid........ I kid, he's sounded like an idiot form the second he inserted himself into the media.


"I'm getting sick of this," Aziz said. "If a fighter is not going to respect the promotion, he is going to be shelved for a long time. I will not release anyone to another promotion. Fighters must honor their contracts."

Owens92x » Posted 7/30/13 10:57:00AM

He shouldn't talk until he knows the reason as to why Palhares pulled out. Him having this outcry and then if it turns out the situation is serious, it's going to make Ali sound dumb(er).

prozacnation1978 » Posted 7/5/07 11:42:00PM

Don't blame him for not wanting to release a guy from a contract. You sign the dotted line. Honor it

Goatenstein » Posted 4/27/12 11:03:00AM

Palhares cares about his mother's health and whether or not she'll be alive. What a dick.

Wallass » Posted 10/7/08 5:39:00PM

This guys an idiot a couple months ago he wants his fighters to face off against Bellator fighters in a 9 fight show which will never happen then lists the fights he wants and leaves off Steve Carl (prior to his loss to Rousimar) which is just wrong and then bad mouths that "fat slob" Bjorn Rebney any chance he gets. Dudes trash plain and simple.

GDPofMPG » Posted 2/22/08 6:29:00PM

All I can think about is the "Enough is enough and it's time for a change!" audio Owen Hart had in the 90's. He didn't have a great voice for that kind of speech and that's part of the reason I can't stop associating it to this Aziz twerp.

youtube.com/watch?v=E8HnGLHDdXg

But yeah, family is gonna take precedence over work for most people in a situation like this, threats be damned. If Palhares was shelved for as long as legally possible by WSOF for having his priorities in order on this situation, that would really send a great message to fighters who potentially would consider signing with WSOF.

Bustamante-Aoki » Posted 5/22/09 8:18:00PM

He's tired of being taken advantage of... Does he not realize he's the patsy here.

Why did Sig Rogich start WSOF, and why is he funding it?

Sig is friends with the Fertita's, he's credited with securing the presidencies for Reagan and Bush Sr. He's got major connections, influence, and can fund raise tens or hundreds of millions of dollars for his political causes.

Why would this man who is close with the Fertita's (and their business partners, like Tim Poster for example) want to start an MMA org to compete with his friends, when he is already so powerful and influential. He was on the NSAC but I don't think he's a super fan, never seen him at an event.

So considering no other MMA org has succeeded in North America apart from UFC and Bellator (sort of), why would he waste his time to compete with people who are still his good friends in a doomed market to promote a sport he doesn't love? Considering how rich and influential he is it makes no sense (on the surface) for him to waste his time and money on this.

Something else Sig did that didn't make sense (on the surface) was to back Harry Reid for Democratic Senate Majority Leader, considering Sig is a lifelong republican. It made no sense until Harry Reid (after elected) put an internet poker bill into place. A bill that would give Fertita Interactive (and a few other (choice) Vegas casino's) a jump on the competition due to it's stipulations.

OK, so Zuffa lost full tilt poker as a sponsor (due to federal regulations) but they still have a lockdown on the (hard to reach) male 18-40 demographic with the UFC. Well that same demographic plays the majority of online poker and the online poker market is so much bigger than MMA. They're going to get insanely rich off internet poker and gambling.

So Sig got Harry Reid elected who is getting an online internet poker bill passed that will make the Fertita's (and some of their other pals) billions in the long run, and he started WSOF, to compete with these same friends, I don't think so. And what's in it for him? No one knows that's why the story remains sort-of-uncovered.

Ali Adbel-Aziz is named the frontman after the media gets very suspicious of Sig and WSOF and started to connect the dots. Aziz immediately calls out Bellator.
(keep in mind Zuffa had to pay Hector half a million per fight and Eddie was offered something like $375k per fight which Bendo heard about and then all the LW's got raises, and now Askren's contract was up and he wanted in the UFC) UFC was risking giving the WW's all huge raises and setting a dangerous precedent and they're greedy, can't have that, so they refused to sign Askren, and continued to encourage good prospects and the Fitches, Shields, Okami's, Palhares' etc. to go to WSOF along with Askren. It's no coincidence that so many WW's are being cut and encouraged to go to WSOF, it's a plan. They wanted Askren to go and lose to one of them making WSOF seem superior to Bellator.

When Bellator was about to debut on SpikeTV, the home of MMA in America, what happened... All of a sudden, Zuffa does something they haven't done since signing Rampage, they decide they want to pay out large money for "free agents", Hector and Eddie. And Dana starts vehemently trashing Bjorn publicly, and so does Aziz and then WSOF comes up with an unfair fight card and starts pushing for co-promotion between them and Bellator, and Dana gets the media to make a huge deal out of Eddie being held back by the evil Bellator and how prospects shouldn't go there.

Bustamante-Aoki » Posted 5/22/09 8:18:00PM

They're trying to destroy Bellator... keep connecting the dots

Basically Viacom owns SpikeTV and Bellator and they are insanely rich. They're bitter at UFC for going to FOX and they're spending on Bellator to keep the stars. If they were competing with WSOF would they keep running at a loss or would the bitterness reside?

UFC has almost 500 fighters, more than they know what to do with, but they don't want Bellator to get any prospects so what do they do? Here's the plan,

Get their buddy Sig to start an MMA org to over-take Bellator in the minds of the masses as the #2 org. Keep the prospects away from Bellator by refusing to sign the Askrens, and openly praising and encouraging fighters to go to RFA and WSOF, where Bellator can't get them.

Once that happens Viacom realizes that they're #3 and wasting money competing with Sig and not Zuffa so they back out of MMA and fold or sell Bellator. Then hopefully (for Zuffa)

WSOF would purchase Bellator (cause Viacom wouldn't want to sell to Zuffa) and then WSOF would declare bankruptcy shortly after, file for bankruptcy protection and Zuffa will buy the assets for a fraction of their real value like they did with Xyience. Or they will pay Sig an insane amount as part of his reward for the poker thing with Harry Reid. Or maybe they'll keep WSOF around as pseudo-competition, like they did with WEC when they wanted to lock down more fighters but didn't have the room for them.

Ali Abdel-Aziz and Ray Sefo will be the failed businessmen/patsy's but they will likely be rewarded for their public failure with money in off-shore accounts, the kind they have in Macau, China.

Thanks to Zach Arnold and several Nevada newspapers the story was broken but not spelled out. Research for yourself or ask for links, there are plenty of them out there, from reliable sources also.

Why was Harry Reid on the UFC anniversary show, among other politicians? This is the same "scam" they pulled with Xyience, Station Casino's bankruptcy restructuring, and WEC all rolled into one and on a much much bigger scale.

grappler0000 » Posted 3/24/07 5:29:00PM

Confirmation Bias

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Bustamante-Aoki » Posted 5/22/09 8:18:00PM


Posted by grappler0000

Confirmation Bias




http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ignorance

Show me a source that says otherwise

Why would Sig start an MMA org?


grappler0000 » Posted 3/24/07 5:29:00PM

Riddle me this - why did WSOF begin a women's straweight division? Bellator got out of the WMMA business. So, if what you say is true, they'd just be competing against themselves for no reason.

This is just one example of a question that doesn't support your point of view. Just a single example, but an important one. "If" you take all information into account, this should be a question you ask yourself. So, I'm curious to hear your reasoning, as it will be very telling of how you respond to information that doesn't support your theory.

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and it's widely known that fighters can freely hop over to Invicta without issue, so there is no need for another feeder org. for women's SW.

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RacingHartPurple » Posted 11/19/09 10:44:00PM

Really hope Fitch vs. Shields happens, I've wanted to see this fight for like the past 5 years.

Bustamante-Aoki » Posted 5/22/09 8:18:00PM


Posted by grappler0000

Riddle me this - why did WSOF begin a women's straweight division? Bellator got out of the WMMA business. So, if what you say is true, they'd just be competing against themselves for no reason.

This is just one example of a question that doesn't support your point of view. Just a single example, but an important one. "If" you take all information into account, this should be a question you ask yourself. So, I'm curious to hear your reasoning, as it will be very telling of how you respond to information that doesn't support your theory.

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and it's widely known that fighters can freely hop over to Invicta without issue, so there is no need for another feeder org. for women's SW.



Because WMMA is "somewhat" popular. It's not all about securing prospects, but WSOF would like to beat them in the ratings also, and if the womens 115 lbs divison helps then so be it.

Maybe it's for the cast-offs that UFC will have in the future. They're going to have to bring in a lot more 115lbers after TUF for the contestants to face, where are they going to come from since they cleared out Invicta and can't do it again soon without Invicta just giving up on that division? Is Invicta even doing another card, financially they're on the rocks already and they lost a lot of their stars. They want to make that the showcase division for WMMA since Ronda is retiring in a couple years. Depth has to come from somewhere, all the stars are signed or in the tourney.

So are you saying Bellator and WSOF aren't competing with each other because only one has a women's 115lbs division?

UFC likes to do "superfights" That's why they still introduce Rockhold as the former Strikeforce champ. If they can bring over the Invicta and the WSOF champs (in the future) for super fights than that = ratings.

You don't think it's very odd that this super influential powerful multi-millionaire would all of a sudden start an MMA business in Vegas, and Zuffa loves them?

Why did UFC have MW, LHW, And HW divisions for so long in WEC and the UFC?

To store prospects and to get ratings, I don't see why else?

Dana said WEC and UFC will compete against each other, it wasn't a feeder league, he always said that.


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