Forrest Griffin is overrated.

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Posted by cmill21

I don't even care who had the better fighters anymore, I just liked the pride fighters better because the best from there seem to finish a ton of fights(Mirko, Shogun, Fedor, Wand, ect.). I hate wrestling and "dirty boxing" it bores me. I like kicks and good punches, knees and kicks on the ground. I also prefer the ring to the cage, thats why I like the Pride fighters, and I also tend to think that some of them are better then the best UFC fighters. When people say "look at Mirko" I just think "yeah look at him he's not even fighting, and if they ever watched him in Pride or K-1 they'd know thats not him". Like I could see people saying Pride had nothing if chuck wen't there and walked through alistair, rampage and wand, but he didn't even make it to wand(who won). Do I like forrest? No, I love the guy, he's hilarious and ussually an exciting fighter, but tonight he fights a guy thats beat anyone and everyone excluding wand.

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Posted by hippysmacker

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Posted by cmill21

I don't even care who had the better fighters anymore, I just liked the pride fighters better because the best from there seem to finish a ton of fights(Mirko, Shogun, Fedor, Wand, ect.). I hate wrestling and "dirty boxing" it bores me. I like kicks and good punches, knees and kicks on the ground. I also prefer the ring to the cage, thats why I like the Pride fighters, and I also tend to think that some of them are better then the best UFC fighters. When people say "look at Mirko" I just think "yeah look at him he's not even fighting, and if they ever watched him in Pride or K-1 they'd know thats not him". Like I could see people saying Pride had nothing if chuck wen't there and walked through alistair, rampage and wand, but he didn't even make it to wand(who won). Do I like forrest? No, I love the guy, he's hilarious and ussually an exciting fighter, but tonight he fights a guy thats beat anyone and everyone excluding wand.

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This actaully makes a lot of sense. if you prefer standup than prides rules and structure definitely were better for strikers. I personally prefer the octagon, but to each his own, and I like grappling dirty boxing. I also like standup , but as a grappler myself I always like watcing aq grappler taking down a guy and pummeling him. Either way my favorite fighters are a mixture , but I admit more are grapplers first ( Randy/Fedor my top 2)than strikers. Anyway, I think Shogun will win, but I think the UFC jitters are a legitamate phenomenom, and that Forrest might even make it to a decision . Remember that Shogun hasn't beaten anyone and everyone but Wand. The last time he was in a cage he got beat by Babalu.

Sakurabaforever after this most recent batch of complaints about you I looked you up in ADMIN, and there is even a thred about you in the MOD forum. Lo and behold you have been given a final warning from Zephead and Svartom. I think you may have broken the record for most post edited or deleted with this one.I haven't been on line a lot lately so it looks like the other Mods have beat me to your previous list of complaints. Either way your banned for a coupla months this time. The saddest thing is I actually agree with some of your arguments. However, It's not always what you say , it's how you say it. Insulting anyone who disagrees with you and a know-it-all posting opinions as facts is the most childish, irratating thing I can think of. ... Except nuthugging. If I could take every Pride or UFC nutthugger and put them on island with weapons to guarentee mutually assured destruction I would. Most of us don't mind someone preferring one over the other. Cmill seems to like Pride fighter's , but I haven't seen any tendency of his to embrace testicles. I Have no preferance and loved both, but many of my friends fall on one side of the fence or other. The thing that bothers me is nuthugging- defined as someone who will defend a agenda/team/side /person against all arguments whether they are right or not. The truth and facts are not always what you want them to be. Your insistence on trying to force your opinions on others, and mocking/attacking all who don't agree just irritates a lot of people. So I hope you actaully get it this time. If not please just join a different site . There are plenty of other forums out there where you can flame and nutthugg without getting banned. This is just not one of them.

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Posted by hippysmacker

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Posted by cmill21

I don't even care who had the better fighters anymore, I just liked the pride fighters better because the best from there seem to finish a ton of fights(Mirko, Shogun, Fedor, Wand, ect.). I hate wrestling and "dirty boxing" it bores me. I like kicks and good punches, knees and kicks on the ground. I also prefer the ring to the cage, thats why I like the Pride fighters, and I also tend to think that some of them are better then the best UFC fighters. When people say "look at Mirko" I just think "yeah look at him he's not even fighting, and if they ever watched him in Pride or K-1 they'd know thats not him". Like I could see people saying Pride had nothing if chuck wen't there and walked through alistair, rampage and wand, but he didn't even make it to wand(who won). Do I like forrest? No, I love the guy, he's hilarious and ussually an exciting fighter, but tonight he fights a guy thats beat anyone and everyone excluding wand.

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This actaully makes a lot of sense. if you prefer standup than prides rules and structure definitely were better for strikers. I personally prefer the octagon, but to each his own, and I like grappling dirty boxing. I also like standup , but as a grappler myself I always like watcing aq grappler taking down a guy and pummeling him. Either way my favorite fighters are a mixture , but I admit more are grapplers first ( Randy/Fedor my top 2)than strikers. Anyway, I think Shogun will win, but I think the UFC jitters are a legitamate phenomenom, and that Forrest might even make it to a decision . Remember that Shogun hasn't beaten anyone and everyone but Wand. The last time he was in a cage he got beat by Babalu.

Sakurabaforever after this most recent batch of complaints about you I looked you up in ADMIN, and there is even a thred about you in the MOD forum. Lo and behold you have been given a final warning from Zephead and Svartom. I think you may have broken the record for most post edited or deleted with this one.I haven't been on line a lot lately so it looks like the other Mods have beat me to your previous list of complaints. Either way your banned for a coupla months this time. The saddest thing is I actually agree with some of your arguments. However, It's not always what you say , it's how you say it. Insulting anyone who disagrees with you and a know-it-all posting opinions as facts is the most childish, irratating thing I can think of. ... Except nuthugging. If I could take every Pride or UFC nutthugger and put them on island with weapons to guarentee mutually assured destruction I would. Most of us don't mind someone preferring one over the other. Cmill seems to like Pride fighter's , but I haven't seen any tendency of his to embrace testicles. I Have no preferance and loved both, but many of my friends fall on one side of the fence or other. The thing that bothers me is nuthugging- defined as someone who will defend a agenda/team/side /person against all arguments whether they are right or not. The truth and facts are not always what you want them to be. Your insistence on trying to force your opinions on others, and mocking/attacking all who don't agree just irritates a lot of people. So I hope you actaully get it this time. If not please just join a different site . There are plenty of other forums out there where you can flame and nutthugg without getting banned. This is just not one of them.

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Posted by kofranklin

I think Forest Griffin is completly overrated. A lot of people think he is going to beat the best LHW in the world in Shogun. Give me a break. Forrest will die. Just look at what Jardine did to him.

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Posted by kofranklin

I think Forest Griffin is completly overrated. A lot of people think he is going to beat the best LHW in the world in Shogun. Give me a break. Forrest will die. Just look at what Jardine did to him.

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Forrest kind of dominated shogun...even from the bottom.
He impressed the crap out of me in this fight. Looks like he picked up a lot since he started training with Randy.

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Posted by mkiv9secsupra

This nuthugging of Shogun really needs to stop. Hes very well rounded but his only great attribute is his clinch. Boxing and wrestling go to Forrest while kicks and BJJ go to Shogun. We know both guys have a good chin and good cardio. Forrest has a reach advantage while Shogun has the experience edge of fighting more top fighters. A simple strategy on Forrests part will be all he needs to win. Shogun is going to come in a do what he always does so Forrest will be able to study him very well. I hope Shogun wins so we can see the rematch with Rampage but i think Forrest will win.

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Posted by mrsmiley

I don't think he's overrated.He's a fan favirote though,and for all the TUF fans and UFC noobs he's probably some sort of Rocky Balboa or something.

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Posted by mrsmiley

I don't think he's overrated.He's a fan favirote though,and for all the TUF fans and UFC noobs he's probably some sort of Rocky Balboa or something.

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It's funny to me how "TUF" is thrown around like some kind of explicit word. I believe some people think that The Ultimate Fighter is some kind of training ground for mentally incoherent sloths. Let's face it, some of the guys that have been on the show are pretty damn good.

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Posted by mrsmiley

...I do believe that sometimes people,including UFC judges make over them way too much.
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Posted by kofranklin

I think Forest Griffin is completly overrated. A lot of people think he is going to beat the best LHW in the world in Shogun. Give me a break. Forrest will die. Just look at what Jardine did to him.

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Posted by mkiv9secsupra

This nuthugging of Shogun really needs to stop. Hes very well rounded but his only great attribute is his clinch. Boxing and wrestling go to Forrest while kicks and BJJ go to Shogun. We know both guys have a good chin and good cardio. Forrest has a reach advantage while Shogun has the experience edge of fighting more top fighters. A simple strategy on Forrests part will be all he needs to win. Shogun is going to come in a do what he always does so Forrest will be able to study him very well. I hope Shogun wins so we can see the rematch with Rampage but i think Forrest will win.

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Posted by mrsmiley

...I do believe that sometimes people,including UFC judges make over them way too much.
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I agree with you there. Anytime someone gets as much attention as the guys on the show, or someone like Fedor, it's easy to over rate them. That doesn't mean that they are bad, or not the best, it just means they may be getting more respect than they deserve.
My only problem is the way some people use the term "TUF."

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Posted by hippysmacker

Sakurabaforever after this most recent batch of complaints about you I looked you up in ADMIN, and there is even a thred about you in the MOD forum. Lo and behold you have been given a final warning from Zephead and Svartom. I think you may have broken the record for most post edited or deleted with this one.I haven't been on line a lot lately so it looks like the other Mods have beat me to your previous list of complaints. Either way your banned for a coupla months this time. The saddest thing is I actually agree with some of your arguments. However, It's not always what you say , it's how you say it. Insulting anyone who disagrees with you and a know-it-all posting opinions as facts is the most childish, irratating thing I can think of. ... Except nuthugging. If I could take every Pride or UFC nutthugger and put them on island with weapons to guarentee mutually assured destruction I would. Most of us don't mind someone preferring one over the other. Cmill seems to like Pride fighter's , but I haven't seen any tendency of his to embrace testicles. I Have no preferance and loved both, but many of my friends fall on one side of the fence or other. The thing that bothers me is nuthugging- defined as someone who will defend a agenda/team/side /person against all arguments whether they are right or not. The truth and facts are not always what you want them to be. Your insistence on trying to force your opinions on others, and mocking/attacking all who don't agree just irritates a lot of people. So I hope you actaully get it this time. If not please just join a different site . There are plenty of other forums out there where you can flame and nutthugg without getting banned. This is just not one of them.

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