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As you guys know the bankrolls got reset late. Unfortunately a few anonymous members have pointed out that the parlay calculations are off. Way off.

No need for anyone to panic and leave the site or get worked up as I already passed this issue on to the sites programmer. This is an issue that the Mods cannot fix so don't shoot the messanger. I'm hoping that this will be resolved by tomorrow. This will impact you guys that got paid over double on your parlays. I'll keep you guys up to date on this since its not fair that some folks wagered a tiny amount on a parlay and got paid several thousand more than they should've. The straight bets were not affected only the parlays.

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Post #1   3/5/18 10:43:02PM   

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Parlay payouts were adjusted to what the actual earnings should've been. So everything is all set and we can continue on as usual.

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That's it, I'm leaving this site!!!!!

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Posted by JLS

Parlay payouts were adjusted to what the actual earnings should've been. So everything is all set and we can continue on as usual.



Mine were not....I went from 12-14K as you know to 2K....I should have around 6K in my bankroll........winning that money the first event only to get screwed is really messing with me. There can't be a manual correction? All my bets are wrong including single bets, not just the parlay.

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UFC 222: Cyborg vs Kunitskaya | #15 out of 523
[parlay wager] $160 A. Arlovski
C. Dolloway
C. Stamann +115
+100
-120 +$1,101
Dolloway vs Lombard $94 CB Dolloway +100 +$94
Struve vs Arlovski $83 Andrei Arlovski +115 +$95
Yoder vs Dern $20 Ashley Yoder +850 -$20
Zingano vs Vieira $72 Ketlen Vieira -130 +$55
O'Malley vs Soukhamthath $52 Andre Soukhamthath +245 -$52
Caraway vs Stamann $56 Cody Stamann -120 +$46
Johnson vs Milstead $47 Adam Milstead +600 -$47
Edgar vs Ortega $21 Brian Ortega +225 +$47
Pyle vs Ottow $70 Mike Pyle -125 -$70
[prediction bonuses] - [view picks] - $345
[season start funds] - - - $1,000
$2,594


I 1000000% did not make those bets......94 dollars, 83 dollars, 20 dollars......this is all wrong, as well as my parlay, I bet more than 160......this is messed up.

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If this isn't resolved by the next event I'm probably taking some time off....this is really annoying how messed up my bets got. I will take people with me too........this site needs to be run better.

2K is 1000000000000% wrong on my wagers.

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Posted by xdanish020

If this isn't resolved by the next event I'm probably taking some time off....this is really annoying how messed up my bets got. I will take people with me too........this site needs to be run better.

2K is 1000000000000% wrong on my wagers.




I don't have the controls to change people's bets. I'm not the sites programmer. Hopefully you don't leave but hey if that's what will make you feel good and satisfied then that's what you have to do i guess. Eventually at this rate the site is gonna end one day and I won't have to put up the cards and the extra stuff that I do.

I've been given too many ultimatums lately from various members. I'd suggest giving those PM's to the administraton account or the sites programmer or owner. There's only so much I can do. I can't sell the site, change any formats, or adjust members bankrolls.

So any concerns about anything I can't control should probably be directed to someone that can give the answers.

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I am not blaming you or any mods specifically but this is the thread to post in so I did.

My wagers are completely wrong. I would suggest putting everyone back at 1000 for the next event since it seems so many people are not pleased with it, just reset it and start fresh

I do not understand how I went from 14K to 1500 but the wagers cannot be changed? They were changed, my bets are wrong. I'm not saying it's on you but if nothing is done, I won't be wasting my time wagering on here anymore.

This site has really gone downhill.....the owners should sell it to someone who actually cares.

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Posted by xdanish020

I would suggest putting everyone back at 1000 for the next event since it seems so many people are not pleased with it, just reset it and start fresh



I agree with xdanish020 here. I actually thought this is what would have been done. Multiple members in my camp were not able to adjust their wagers in time since they didn't get reset until last minute. Then the wagers go all wonky afterwards and even after they're supposed to be fixed, they're still wonky. Resting them back to $1000 seems like the most fair thing to do. It sounds like it'll leave a sour taste if they aren't. I know you can't make these changes JLS, but whoever can would listen to you before any of us.

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XDanish, how are your wagers not correct? They look spot on from my quick glance of the math. $160 parlay of 3 even odds paid $1100 sounds about right. The straight bets are common sense. What exact error are you claiming?

You’ve been here since 2008, it was a new season, so you have to know know that you start at $1,000 each season. If you wagered more then that because the bankrolls weren’t immediately reset whose fault is that? You should’ve known by now that you start each season with $1,000 & sometimes the previous seasons bankroll is still there for days afteewards...your ignorance isn’t anyone else’s fault or to blame except yourself.

If you incorrectly attemptied / originally succeeded to wager more then $1,000 then your wager percentages were perfectly adjusted to the percentage of every season’s starting bankroll of a $1,000...correct me if I’m wrong.

This site and all of MMA has become over saturated for years now. This site went from almost 7000 members (6,879 season 7) when I joined in 2010 when I first joined this site to now just over a mere 600 (629 season 33) in 2018.

As for the issue, if there are errors I’m not seeing / didn’t mention then maybe the bankrolls should be reset, but cancelling the event definitely shouldn’t happen (again) as Pick % and Points were still spot on with no errors.

Lastly, I agree that the owner should be changed since apparently they don’t care, but from what I last heard a while back from vague memory someone said they wanted an insane amount for this site which I’m sure makes absolutely no money.

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I did the math and the payout is correct. What I noticed happen is the amount people placed were decreased by the site once the bankrolls were reset. When I set my wagers before the bankroll was reset, I set them as if I only had $1000 and even though I bet under $1000 it still changed my wagers once the bankroll was reset. I noticed it in time to readjust them but I'm sure a lot of people didn't and because of that what they bet was less than what they intended.

No one has really complained about it on my team, so I'm fine with leaving it the way it is and I'm also fine if they're reset to $1000. I won't complain either way. I guess whatever is going upset the least amount of people is the best way to go.

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Posted by LooseCannon

XDanish, how are your wagers not correct? They look spot on from my quick glance of the math. $160 parlay of 3 even odds paid $1100 sounds about right. The straight bets are common sense. What exact error are you claiming?

You’ve been here since 2008, it was a new season, so you have to know know that you start at $1,000 each season. If you wagered more then that because the bankrolls weren’t immediately reset whose fault is that? You should’ve known by now that you start each season with $1,000 & sometimes the previous seasons bankroll is still there for days afteewards...your ignorance isn’t anyone else’s fault or to blame except yourself.

If you incorrectly attemptied / originally succeeded to wager more then $1,000 then your wager percentages were perfectly adjusted to the percentage of every season’s starting bankroll of a $1,000...correct me if I’m wrong.

This site and all of MMA has become over saturated for years now. This site went from almost 7000 members (6,879 season 7) when I joined in 2010 when I first joined this site to now just over a mere 600 (629 season 33) in 2018.

As for the issue, if there are errors I’m not seeing / didn’t mention then maybe the bankrolls should be reset, but cancelling the event definitely shouldn’t happen (again) as Pick % and Points were still spot on with no errors.

Lastly, I agree that the owner should be changed since apparently they don’t care, but from what I last heard a while back from vague memory someone said they wanted an insane amount for this site which I’m sure makes absolutely no money.



Because those are not the bets I made. My single events are always 3-500 dollar parlays as well as 2-3 single bets....I don't bet 42 dollars or 21 dollars, those bets are straight up WRONG. I don't know what's so hard to understand, I didn't make those bets....go over my bet history for my first event every season and you will see what I am talking about.

Also those bets do not add up to 1000 which is what I bet every first event.

And my ignorance? I know the bets reset every season, you are ignorant to think I bet more than 1000, when I didn't.

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Lets keep it clean fellas please.

Here's what happened.



I did not inflate any wagers tho (the opposite of above, scaling up the numbers if they are under 1,000). I only deflated and scaled down anyone whose wagers were more than the 1,000 starting point for the first event of the season



Hopefully this adds some calarity as to what happened.

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I must’ve waited to place my bets until within 48 hours, which all fights are subject to change before that point, because my full $1000 was never adjusted & I only made $200 so it’s not like I cleaned up.

Basic math though Danish there is no way you or anyone could’ve made $14k on an even odds parlay first event. The earnings were clearly way off which originally benefitted you incorrectly to an extreme amount.

Now it adjusted at least close to what it should have been. It sounds like you bet early & didn’t check back, got overpaid big time, and now you’re nit picking a couple hundred bucks.

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Posted by LooseCannon

I must’ve waited to place my bets until within 48 hours, which all fights are subject to change before that point, because my full $1000 was never adjusted & I only made $200 so it’s not like I cleaned up.

Basic math though Danish there is no way you or anyone could’ve made $14k on an even odds parlay first event. The earnings were clearly way off which originally benefitted you incorrectly to an extreme amount.

Now it adjusted at least close to what it should have been. It sounds like you bet early & didn’t check back, got overpaid big time, and now you’re nit picking a couple hundred bucks.



Yes, the 14K was wrong....it should've been around 6K. And you are 100% right, I did bet early and did not double check because why would I? This has never happened ever before.

If I could see my bets before they were adjusted, it would help give me some clarity as I do not remember making all of those bets on all of those fighters (especially not at the amount listed)

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