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Should MMA be included in the Ali act?
Yes,it would protect fighters and balance the power in MMA. 7 41%
No,it doesn't translate to MMA 5 29%
All hail the baldfather what he says is the gospel. 5 29%
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Ufc hires lawfirm


The UFC is making its feelings towards the expansion of the Ali act into MMA perfectly clear....

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Ufc has spent tons of money lobbying against this happening........no surprise they are continuing the fight.

They have put tons of money to expand mma but in the same breathe they're spending tons of money to keep the power with the promotions.

Really hope fighters get a union they sure as hell deserve it.

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I voted NO because frankly I don't understand the direct effect of the Ali Act into MMA.

I for one can understand wanting to give more and equal powers to the talent rather than the promotion. But the whole belt thing is where it gets tricky. If the Ali Act does in fact bring one belt to each weight class based upon a third party provisional oversight, then won't we see only ONE heavyweight belt for ALL MMA promotions?

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There are now four major sanctioning bodies in professional boxing. The official rules and regulations of the World Boxing Association,[1] World Boxing Council,[2] International Boxing Federation[3] and World Boxing Organization[4] all recognize the other three major sanctioning bodies in their rankings and title unification rules. Each of these organizations sanction and regulate championship bouts and award championships. (From wikipedia)
All of them have belts and champions,but difference is they all recognize the eachother in their rankings ,and the champions all eventually have options to fight eachother to unify the belts and or prove who is the best.(atleast that is my understanding)

Ali act will of course be fine tuned for mma as boxing isn't an identical sport but it holds many benefits to fighter protection of salaries and earnings.

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The Ali Act wouldn't work in MMA.

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Posted by tepid55

The Ali Act wouldn't work in MMA.



im not going to pretend like i know what all it deals with, but a lot of people who are smarter than me and get paid to pay attention to these things agree with Tepid55.

everyone says mma needs its own written legislation, so hopefully we're headed in the right direction

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True it doesn't translate well, but 8t is a good idea for some sort of legislation to equal the playing field for the fighters. A lot of folks don't realize how little it will do for mid to low ranking fighters though. It really is better for champions who need to see total revenue an event made to ensure they get paid for their respective drawing power. The whole not making poor matches thing doesn't really apply to the UFC as much as it does in smaller organizations. If the Ali Act applied worldwide we would never see Fedor vs Fabio.

Edit: here is an article just done by MMAFighting.com that will hopefully clarify some things on the topic.

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I agree with Tepid as well.

There should be some sort of legislation written to balance the power out between fighters and promotions (there should also be a system in place to protect the media from promotions as well, but that's a separate issue).

I just don't think the Ali act fits with MMA at all.

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If the UFC is lobbying against it then it's probably good for MMA fighter pay.

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Fighter pay,sponsorships,contracts all would have to be revised........zuffa no likey.

I think a huge issue for them is having to acknowledge other orgs in their rankings and the possibility of title unifications.

Ufc is all about growing the sport.....until you include the rest of the sport lol.

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Wow. The Ali Act is getting voted down. MMA truly has no future. Even the fans are against the fighters in order to sustain a greedy corrupt promotion.

Why do you think Zuffa is spending millions of dollars to defeat the Ali Act (and great timing all things considered, the death of a transcending human who this legislation was written in name of in large part for his chronic action and work to stand up for and be a voice for those smaller, under-represented people, be them athlete or other, here that person, the entity in need happens to be fighters)? If the Ali Act was amended to include mixed martial artist, who stands to benefit, who doesn't? If you can't answer, you have no place in the conversation until you take the time to educate yourself. If you voted no, did you do so because you are ignorant? Why bother if you don't know what the fuck you're talking about?

I find it disgraceful.


Are the following findings inaccurate for MMA? Which are inaccurate and why?

There are no establish uniform and appropriate business practices and ethical standards for MMA in the USA. The UFC and other promotions have repeated occurrences of disreputable and coercive business practices in the MMA industry, to the detriment of fighters.

State commissions do not receive adequate information to determine whether fighters competing in their jurisdiction are being subjected to contract terms and business practices which may violate State regulations, or are onerous and confiscatory.

Promoters who engage in illegal, coercive, or unethical business practices can take advantage of the lack of equitable business standards in the sport by holding MMA events in States with weaker regulatory oversight.

The sanctioning organizations which have proliferated in the MMA industry have not established credible and objective criteria to rate professional fighters, and operate with virtually no industry or public oversight. Their ratings are susceptible to manipulation, have deprived MMA fighters of fair opportunities for advancement, and have undermined public confidence in the integrity of the sport.

Open competition in the professional MMA industry has been significantly interfered with by restrictive and anticompetitive business practices of certain promoters and sanctioning bodies, to the detriment of the athletes and the ticket-buying public.

It is necessary and appropriate to establish national contracting reforms to protect professional MMA fighters and prevent exploitative business practices, and to require enhanced financial disclosures to State athletic commissions to improve the public oversight of the sport.


Are you against the following principles applying in MMA. If so, why?

Protect the rights and welfare of professional MMA fighters on an interstate basis by preventing certain exploitive, oppressive, and unethical business practices.

Assist State commissions in their efforts to provide more effective public oversight of the sport.

Promote honorable competition in professional fighting and enhance the overall integrity of the industry.




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Absolute gospel bro!!!

Voting should only happen if you know what your talking about....if you dont even know what it is or how it would impact mma....you shouldn't vote......you especially dont vote no due to ignorance of the subject.


Ali act protects fighters no way in hell is this bad for the sport in any way.It actually unites all of mma in some ways which is two reasons why zuffa is leading the charge at stopping it.

If zuffa doesn't like it odds are its good for the fighters or benefits the entire sport not just them......ufcs separatist syndrome rearing its ugly head lol.




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A quick Wikipedia search gave some info....

Here is what the act does for boxing in a nutshell....

1.) protect the rights and welfare of boxers

2.) aid state boxing commissions with the oversight of boxing

3.) increase sportsmanship and integrity within the boxing industry (See 114 Stat. 321(3) (2000) ). The Act amends the 1996 Professional Boxing Safety Act by expanding upon legislature against exploitation, conflict of interest, enforcement, and as well as additional amendments.

The following are things found by the federal government to be occuring and why the act was needed in the first ......see if any of these sound familiar....

Listed are a number of discoveries made by Congress (see 144 Stat. 322(3) (2000)):

The Act was enacted in response to widespread abuse of boxers by means of exploitation, rigged rankings, and rigged matches.

Professional boxing is not governed by any league, association, or any form of an established organization like majority of other professional sports.

The state officials are not ensuring the protection of the boxers and are not aware or informed of contracts boxers have agreed to.

Promoters are taking advantage of the sport by conducting dishonest business affairs.

Promoters are not being punished due to some states being less strict about the legal terms that are stated in contracts.
There is no rating system provided to rank professional boxers thus ratings are subjected to manipulation by those in charge.

There has been a major interference in the sport because of open competition by restrictive and anti-competitive bodies.

There are no restrictions placed on contracts that boxers agree to with promoters and managers. It is necessary to enforce a national contract reform which will guarantee the safety of professional boxers and the public from unlawful contracts and to enhance the integrity of the sport.






Rankings,contracts,fighter abuse.......all very similar to current mma landscape.

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Those are all awesome things. Hopefully it happens one day. Not getting my hopes up

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Well then maybe you shoulda voted yes


All joking aside......

I honestly would love to hear how this doesn't apply to mma......

Unless your zuffa who would need to end up reforming alot of its practices and payout much more to fighters.......i would expect any fans of the sport and supporters of its fighters to support this.I've read mma needs its own written legislation.......well ali act can be altered to fit mma.All the right ideals are in place a few variations and it will work fine.


I understand if your zuffa you WANT to keep the power and the sport to yourself,you dont want the government in your earnings telling you how much fighterd deserve,you dont want to acknowledge the other orgs because that would mean the ufc isnt the entire sport.

I DON'T understand why or how fans would be opposed to it......

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