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I dont think it was ever going to be a title fight , it would be a catchweight superfight.

and putting the top 2 arguably P4P fighters in the cage together makes perfect sense if you can find a weight where their skills would be evenly matched, THATS the difficult part. GSP fighting a little under natural weight against somebody with 20-30 pounds on him is the only part that doesnt make sense, hence that catch weight....whatever that would be.

whatever happens, I dont think this would make any difference in the p4p rankings and it never will unless the two p4p fighters in the world are naturally in the same weight class

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Making it a catch weight doesn't change giving him a shot at the champ of the next div up. They're both actually naturally bigger. GSP should be at 185, he fights where he does because he can dominate and make the cut. Andersen should move up and should have a long time ago. And I have to laugh every time I see someone put GSP in the p4p debate. That's just nonsense.

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Umm, every fighert cuts weight to fight smaller guys, that the whole point of cutting weight, and doing it properly, its a science, name 3 people outside of HW that fight at their natural weight.

I never said GSP had a shot.
He is by far the better fighter, striking, no, better fighter, absolutely, but its a fight he cant win due to size

as for not being at the top of the p4p list

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by far the better fighter? ROFL

Might as well top those off w/ a cpl more

And I'm obviously not talknig about weight cut. Georges is one of those who can make the cut to a div much smaller than he is so he does it for the advantage. We all know there are several who do it. Guys who don't belong in their respective div's. I guess props to him for being able to make the cut instead of fighting guys his own size and be dominant at the smaller weight, but that does not a p4p king make. His striking is just now to a point it's not embarrassing and his sub game is non existent. Being the larger wrestler who can bore his opponents/audience to sleep everytime he fights doesn't put him in the category of fighters like AS.

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Anderson walks around at 220-225 when he is fighting MW and cuts to 185 = 35-40 pounds
GSP walks around at 190-95, cuts 25-30 pounds for 170.


when Anderson fights at 205 he is BIGGER then his opponents who CUT to 205.

So anderson, cuts 10 pounds more then GSP does (who only fights at 170 because he at an advantage right?) yet you think silva is in his respective division? hahaha, by your own flawed logic, Anderson is an even bigger p***y then GSP....

I think we can agree that the fight means nothing, and probably shouldnt happen and should probably leave it at that

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Anderson vs Jones at andersons 3rd 205 fight. Most likely, GSP moves up. Fights Sonnen for the vacant belt. 170 belt would be vacant. Penn vs Fitch 2 for the belt. Penn and Anderson will most likely retire in the next 2 or 3 years.

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Anderson walks around at 220-225 when he is fighting MW and cuts to 185 = 35-40 pounds
GSP walks around at 190-95, cuts 25-30 pounds for 170.


when Anderson fights at 205 he is BIGGER then his opponents who CUT to 205.

So anderson, cuts 10 pounds more then GSP does (who only fights at 170 because he at an advantage right?) yet you think silva is in his respective division? hahaha, by your own flawed logic, Anderson is an even bigger p***y then GSP....

I think we can agree that the fight means nothing, and probably shouldnt happen and should probably leave it at that



I'm not sure where ur getting ur info from, anderson walks areound at about 220 but loses it very quick, rumour is 2 or weeks out he is 200lbs or even less

I know for a fact that st.pierre weighs about 187 just a few houra after weigh ins. so u have to assume on fight night he is between 190-195 probably closer to 190 though. so it is safe to say the gsp walks around at well over 200 lbs there is prob only a 10lb difference between these guys in between camps, and im willing to say these guys weight about the same 2-3 weeks away from fight time

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I keep seeing that this should have happened long ago or its about time. Did everyone miss the Sonnen fight? Wasn't that less then a year ago? What next your going to say Brock was rushed to a title and just won cause he was big. Ohhhhhh

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Anderson walks around at 220-225 when he is fighting MW and cuts to 185 = 35-40 pounds
GSP walks around at 190-95, cuts 25-30 pounds for 170.


when Anderson fights at 205 he is BIGGER then his opponents who CUT to 205.

So anderson, cuts 10 pounds more then GSP does (who only fights at 170 because he at an advantage right?) yet you think silva is in his respective division? hahaha, by your own flawed logic, Anderson is an even bigger p***y then GSP....

I think we can agree that the fight means nothing, and probably shouldnt happen and should probably leave it at that



I'm not sure where ur getting ur info from, anderson walks areound at about 220 but loses it very quick, rumour is 2 or weeks out he is 200lbs or even less

I know for a fact that st.pierre weighs about 187 just a few houra after weigh ins. so u have to assume on fight night he is between 190-195 probably closer to 190 though. so it is safe to say the gsp walks around at well over 200 lbs there is prob only a 10lb difference between these guys in between camps, and im willing to say these guys weight about the same 2-3 weeks away from fight time




yeah thanks for the quote and saying what I just said...... I just said anderson weighs 220 and GSP 195. If you think GSP and Silva are the same sive you're flippin blind

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Anderson walks around at 220-225 when he is fighting MW and cuts to 185 = 35-40 pounds
GSP walks around at 190-95, cuts 25-30 pounds for 170.


when Anderson fights at 205 he is BIGGER then his opponents who CUT to 205.

So anderson, cuts 10 pounds more then GSP does (who only fights at 170 because he at an advantage right?) yet you think silva is in his respective division? hahaha, by your own flawed logic, Anderson is an even bigger p***y then GSP....

I think we can agree that the fight means nothing, and probably shouldnt happen and should probably leave it at that



I'm not sure where ur getting ur info from, anderson walks areound at about 220 but loses it very quick, rumour is 2 or weeks out he is 200lbs or even less

I know for a fact that st.pierre weighs about 187 just a few houra after weigh ins. so u have to assume on fight night he is between 190-195 probably closer to 190 though. so it is safe to say the gsp walks around at well over 200 lbs there is prob only a 10lb difference between these guys in between camps, and im willing to say these guys weight about the same 2-3 weeks away from fight time




yeah thanks for the quote and saying what I just said...... I just said anderson weighs 220 and GSP 195. If you think GSP and Silva are the same sive you're flippin blind



My avatar clearly shows the differance

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Anderson walks around at 220-225 when he is fighting MW and cuts to 185 = 35-40 pounds
GSP walks around at 190-95, cuts 25-30 pounds for 170.


when Anderson fights at 205 he is BIGGER then his opponents who CUT to 205.

So anderson, cuts 10 pounds more then GSP does (who only fights at 170 because he at an advantage right?) yet you think silva is in his respective division? hahaha, by your own flawed logic, Anderson is an even bigger p***y then GSP....

I think we can agree that the fight means nothing, and probably shouldnt happen and should probably leave it at that



I'm not sure where ur getting ur info from, anderson walks areound at about 220 but loses it very quick, rumour is 2 or weeks out he is 200lbs or even less

I know for a fact that st.pierre weighs about 187 just a few houra after weigh ins. so u have to assume on fight night he is between 190-195 probably closer to 190 though. so it is safe to say the gsp walks around at well over 200 lbs there is prob only a 10lb difference between these guys in between camps, and im willing to say these guys weight about the same 2-3 weeks away from fight time




yeah thanks for the quote and saying what I just said...... I just said anderson weighs 220 and GSP 195. If you think GSP and Silva are the same sive you're flippin blind




there is a big flippin difference between cutting weight and losing weight, im saying anderson and gsp basically cut from the same weight, meaning relatively the same size on fight night, not to mention u think silva is the same size as griffin

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this must be true!! thers nothing else for silva to do at middleweight!! if he fought gsp hed be far to big for him plus st pierre couldnt stand up with him anyway! i know sonnen bossed silva around but i beleive he wanted him to go the ground so that he could submit him to prove his ju-jitsu under the nogerias was reliable, especially after sonnen said it was like having a happy meal without a toy!

id like to see silva v sonnen again to prove it wasnt a fluke then
silva v jones!

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