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His Frame and Skills are at there Peak at 185, and he expressed many times before that he wants to stay at 185. so why is he fighting at 205 now?!

i hope his Franklin fight is at most a catchweight fight at 195.
i just think Belfort will make an awesome impact at 185. PLUS THE WAND REMATCH!!!

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Post #1   7/31/09 4:26:17PM   

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It wont matter, he will beat Rich at 205 but I do believe at 185 this fight would be more exciting, Belfort will make a huge impact at 185. He has the skill set to beat anyone in the division. I expect him to be the champ @ 185 in 2010.

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Posted by joshryanshepherd

His Frame and Skills are at there Peak at 185, and he expressed many times before that he wants to stay at 185. so why is he fighting at 205 now?!



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Posted by chickmagnet

It wont matter, he will beat Rich at 205 but I do believe at 185 this fight would be more exciting, Belfort will make a huge impact at 185. He has the skill set to beat anyone in the division. I expect him to be the champ @ 185 in 2010.



i agree

Vitors fight are always awesome and i look for him to be extremely hungry since his last fight was canceled. Rich is having nothing but super fights now and i love it. but like you said Vitor could possibly be champ soon.

maybe if he beats rich and then fights the nate V maia winner. he could get an early title shot

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Vitor is perfectly capable at 205, imo. He beat Wanderlei at LHW and Herring at HW. He has enough skill and technique to offset a slight size disadvantage at 205 but i doubt he is going to stay at 205 anyways. Im sure any capable fighter would take on Rich at 205 if given the opportunity....

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Posted by mkiv9secsupra

Vitor is perfectly capable at 205, imo. He beat Wanderlei at LHW and Herring at HW. He has enough skill and technique to offset a slight size disadvantage at 205 but i doubt he is going to stay at 205 anyways. Im sure any capable fighter would take on Rich at 205 if given the opportunity....



your right but i dont think you understand what i meant.

Rashad can fight HW but why should he? Bisping can fight 205 but....im sorry i take that back. BJ can fight at 170 but why should he?

you know? vitor can give them all a fight but he is striving to be a champion no sense in making it harder on yourself ( at least until hes champ)

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Posted by joshryanshepherd


Posted by mkiv9secsupra

Vitor is perfectly capable at 205, imo. He beat Wanderlei at LHW and Herring at HW. He has enough skill and technique to offset a slight size disadvantage at 205 but i doubt he is going to stay at 205 anyways. Im sure any capable fighter would take on Rich at 205 if given the opportunity....



your right but i dont think you understand what i meant.

Rashad can fight HW but why should he? Bisping can fight 205 but....im sorry i take that back. BJ can fight at 170 but why should he?

you know? vitor can give them all a fight but he is striving to be a champion no sense in making it harder on yourself ( at least until hes champ)



I see what you mean but i just dont see Vitor becoming a champ. I cant see him beating many fighters like Henderson or Marquardt at 185. The guys who can take him down i think will simply control him and get UDs over him. I would love to see him take on Wanderlei at 185 and see if the first fight was a fluke

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Vitor just had terrible style matchups at 205, i mean look...

Tito Ortiz (loss)
Randy Couture (loss)
Randy Couture (loss)
Dan Henderson (loss)

Those are 4 very good wrestlers, and they kept him grounded.

I do agree that 185 is better for Vitor, but his key losses at 205 are all to good wrestlers, I even bet on Lindland to win because he's a good wrestler.

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Because franklin is the ultimate 185 gatekeeper

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Honestly am I the only one that thinks Vitors overrated. He will lose to Franklin and then lose to Tito aswell. 185 is a better fit for him but he still wouldnt get through Hendo, Maia or even Bisping, Im sure he could squeeze out a victory or two obver the likes of Gouveia or Belcher but I havent seen much from Vitor in the last few years to convince me hell be a future middleweight champ or even still in the UFC in 2011.

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i totally agree mae this fight into a catchweight already keep vitor at 185

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I think emfleek nailed it. They needed a more interesting fight than Hendo/Franklin II so they flashed some green to Vitor with the promise of his next fight at MW I bet.

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I agree that I don't like Vitor at 205...I think they are doing this fight because its a good draw on short notice...I think Dan v Vitor 2 would make alot more sense but I'm thinking they are giving Vitor this fight at 205 so it doesn't relaly affect his standing at 185 win or lose kind of like the catchweight fight for rich and Wand


BTW--HELL YEAH VITOR IS BACK IN THE UFC!!!

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What I am wondering is whether or not his hands will be fast or not. I don't mind him being at 205 as long as his hands don't slow down. In the fight against Rich it might be better for him to come in a little lighter so he cuts less and can keep the pace high.

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Its a catch weight. 195 per his request .Problem solved.



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