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madmarck
10/19/07 10:33:04PM
I decided to contact Melvin Costa yesterday in order to get his side of the story in regarding to the recent distribution of pictures on the Internet that show Costa with a swastika on his chest.

After speaking with Costa, I briefly thought about whether I should give him a platform to express views that I think could be hurtful and offensive. However, while I didn't agree with very much of what he said, the one point where he and I are in agreement is when it comes to his assertion that he should be allowed to express his views. I called the man for comment and he gave it to me so what kind of journalist would I be if I censored it just because I don't agree with it?

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FYI Costa is not a Neo-Nazi according to his own words.
He also holds a 4-0 record in KOTC
No Word on whether he has signed to a pro elite org.
rcg916
10/19/07 10:41:46PM
No major org with a TV or PPV deal will sign a guy with a huge swastika on his chest. Period.
cowcatcher
10/19/07 10:56:43PM

Posted by rcg916

No major org with a TV or PPV deal will sign a guy with a huge swastika on his chest. Period.



ding ding ding.....100% correct rcg
Irish209
10/19/07 11:02:32PM
Yeah and thats a 100 % bullshit too!!! The LHW champion in ufc has a black panther fucken tattoo.That is exactly what Costa was talking about right there! the world will never change
rcg916
10/19/07 11:24:46PM

Posted by Irish209

Yeah and thats a 100 % bullshit too!!! The LHW champion in ufc has a black panther fucken tattoo.That is exactly what Costa was talking about right there! the world will never change



Melvin, is that you?

loller90278
10/20/07 12:14:24AM
let him get it touched up and make it not so obvious like roman zentsov
Sam_Rothstein
10/20/07 6:50:53AM
I heard that gary shaw has been contacted about this and is "taking care" of the situation and talking to the KOTC president about the situation

on a side note did you also know that he has a tattoo on his stomach that says I Have A Small Penis.
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Sam_Rothstein
10/20/07 6:52:12AM
and yes the photo above me is melvin costa, the swastica on his chest is the one everyone is talking about

the spider web on his right elbow is the one sam caplan mentions at the end of the interview
waylon_o
10/20/07 7:18:22AM
I agree with everything he says, I just don't agree with the way he portrays himself. I dont like his Swastika, and I also don't like Rampage's black panther.
zephead
10/20/07 9:30:19AM
Great interveiw Sam. I believe in Free Speach and when you have that, you have people that will express believes that run counter to your own. But that is what makes this country great. The right to believe the way you want.

I am white and I love you I am. But I am also ashamed of some things my race has done. Be proud of who you are. But what he has will cause problems. That's like me wearing a white hood and then saying, I don't believe in everything that Klan does, but I love my race. The Swastika stands for hate, pure and simple. Hitler hated everyone who wasn't white. At the 1936 Games he refused to shake Jesse Owens hand.


madmarck
10/20/07 9:47:57AM
I believe this is the photo everyone is talking about on Rampage.
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moob
10/20/07 11:06:53AM

it stands for the purity of my people's blood. It doesn't stand for hating jews or any other ethnic race


What a muppet. Try telling that to the relatives who suffered during WWII.
moob
10/20/07 11:11:10AM

Posted by waylon_o

I agree with everything he says, I just don't agree with the way he portrays himself. I dont like his Swastika, and I also don't like Rampage's black panther.



I think that particular black panther is a generic tattoo used by artists all over the world - I don't believe it is intended as support for the Black Panther Party below:



waylon_o
10/20/07 11:26:00AM

Posted by moob


Posted by waylon_o

I agree with everything he says, I just don't agree with the way he portrays himself. I dont like his Swastika, and I also don't like Rampage's black panther.



I think that particular black panther is a generic tattoo used by artists all over the world - I don't believe it is intended as support for the Black Panther Party below:





That may be true, but that works both ways. The swastika symbol was around long before the nazi party, and it had nothing to do with hating Jews.
moob
10/20/07 11:43:06AM

Posted by waylon_o

That may be true, but that works both ways. The swastika symbol was around long before the nazi party, and it had nothing to do with hating Jews.



Who said it did?

It's what it clearly signifies to the majority of the rational world that's important. You simply can't put a symbol of that nature on your body, go sporting it around, and explain your way out of it, as 'It's OK though, I don't hate Jews' - what a ridiculous notion.

Yeah, the histrionics of the Swastika as a symbol did predate Nazi Germany and the Nazi Party, but that is completely irrelevant in this situation, given what occurred thereafter.

People don't get their body permanently marked with symbols of such controversy without having thought it out, and how it would be perceived by the majority who view it.

You can't defend the indefensible.

EDIT:

Incidently, it isn't just a Swastika, it is an Eagle Swastika. Are you gonna tell me that predated Nazi Germany?
madmarck
10/20/07 12:35:03PM
we should have a Q&A with rampage to discuss his tatoo.

Who knows maybe he just wanted a tatoo of a black panther b/c it looks cool.
Sir_Karl
10/20/07 3:31:49PM
I agree with Irish209.
Race pride is ignorant in my eyes...but we must have consistency.
If you point fingers at Costa than then point them at Rampage as well.
White Pride/Black Pride...same thing.
Hypocrisy and lack of integrity and consistency...pure and simple.
Example...feminism.
Can I start a movement called masculism?
LMAO......yeah right.
The word doesn't even exist.
Black Pride is good and white pride is bad?
In my eyes they are both bad....I used to say "human pride"...but with the state of the world today....I am not proud to be a human.
Freedom of speech remember?
Costa is the one who has to face the critics and the fans....LET HIM WORRY ABOUT IT.
titorican
10/20/07 4:24:13PM
I could be completely wrong but the name Melvin Costa doesn't sound all that purely 'white' to me. Melvin is possibly supporting a group that hates him!
Sam_Rothstein
10/20/07 5:41:23PM
that is the tattoo people are talking about on rampage

that dinky little panther?? thats supposed to be a black panther as in the movement? Ive seen white people with that tattoo before

maybe i should tell them that it means black panther.
zephead
10/20/07 6:11:24PM

Posted by Sam_Rothstein

that is the tattoo people are talking about on rampage

that dinky little panther?? thats supposed to be a black panther as in the movement? Ive seen white people with that tattoo before

maybe i should tell them that it means black panther.



I agree. Rampage's tat has nothing to do with The Blank Panther Movement. I know a couple of white guys with that tat.
moob
10/21/07 9:05:15AM

Posted by Sir_Karl

I agree with Irish209.
Race pride is ignorant in my eyes...but we must have consistency.
If you point fingers at Costa than then point them at Rampage as well.
White Pride/Black Pride...same thing.
Hypocrisy and lack of integrity and consistency...pure and simple.
Example...feminism.
Can I start a movement called masculism?
LMAO......yeah right.
The word doesn't even exist.
Black Pride is good and white pride is bad?
In my eyes they are both bad....I used to say "human pride"...but with the state of the world today....I am not proud to be a human.
Freedom of speech remember?
Costa is the one who has to face the critics and the fans....LET HIM WORRY ABOUT IT.



Perhaps you need to read through the thread. Rampage's tattoo is not representative of the Black Panther Party, Costa's is clearly representative of the Nazi Party.

Therefore no one needs to point a finger at Rampage. Engage your brain before posting next time.
XblacksheepX
10/22/07 11:41:45PM
First of all, i'd say it was right to interview that idiot and ask for his reasons. I would like to see that with more fighters to know, what they are about.

What this white power racist is saying though, is complete bullshit. But what makes me more uncomfortable is that a lot of people don't seem to get it.

The eagle swastika is without a doubt nothing else than the symbol of german nationalsocialism, that caused WW II and the industrial extinction of 6 million jewish people. It's racist and antisemitic discrimination, prosecution and killing for self purpose is unique in human history. Costa knew that when he got tatooed with it for sure. Comparing all that to resistance movements of opressed minorities struggeling for equal rights in a society is RIDICULOUS!!!
Malcom X is the new Adolf Hitler, or what?

What's the point being proud of the colour of damn skin by the way? Your "race" is nothing else but coincidence when you pop out of your mothers vagina and say hi to the world whatever you look like. You could be proud of doing something or working for a goal, you finally achieve or something.. But what is your ****** contribution of being white, brown, yellow or whatever? And also, if you think your "race" is the best there is, you simultaneously say others are worse. There is no ****** race but the human race. That he got beaten up by racists when he grew up doesn't makes it any better that he became one himself. And if you do just a little research on the white power movement, it won't take long to find, that its organisations are extremely right wing, racist, anti-jewish and dangerous for democracy while glorifing nazi germany. those guys just wait for the clash of the races and want to prepare themself for it, because they are afraid that maybe someday nobody gives a ******* shit about what colour the skin is.

I bet my ass that this idiot was a true nazi that now just tries to become mainstream. Let's hope that will never happen!

Why you didn't ask him about his purity of blood, if he got cut and his mexican opponent mixes their blood while kicking his racist ass? Will his blood be no more pure? Will the white race die out because of it?

There should be no place for that kind of idiots in this sport!!!

moob
10/23/07 1:07:21PM

Posted by XblacksheepX

First of all, i'd say it was right to interview that idiot and ask for his reasons. I would like to see that with more fighters to know, what they are about.

What this white power racist is saying though, is complete bullshit. But what makes me more uncomfortable is that a lot of people don't seem to get it.

The eagle swastika is without a doubt nothing else than the symbol of german nationalsocialism, that caused WW II and the industrial extinction of 6 million jewish people. It's racist and antisemitic discrimination, prosecution and killing for self purpose is unique in human history. Costa knew that when he got tatooed with it for sure. Comparing all that to resistance movements of opressed minorities struggeling for equal rights in a society is RIDICULOUS!!!
Malcom X is the new Adolf Hitler, or what?

What's the point being proud of the colour of damn skin by the way? Your "race" is nothing else but coincidence when you pop out of your mothers vagina and say hi to the world whatever you look like. You could be proud of doing something or working for a goal, you finally achieve or something.. But what is your ****** contribution of being white, brown, yellow or whatever? And also, if you think your "race" is the best there is, you simultaneously say others are worse. There is no ****** race but the human race. That he got beaten up by racists when he grew up doesn't makes it any better that he became one himself. And if you do just a little research on the white power movement, it won't take long to find, that its organisations are extremely right wing, racist, anti-jewish and dangerous for democracy while glorifing nazi germany. those guys just wait for the clash of the races and want to prepare themself for it, because they are afraid that maybe someday nobody gives a ******* shit about what colour the skin is.

I bet my ass that this idiot was a true nazi that now just tries to become mainstream. Let's hope that will never happen!

Why you didn't ask him about his purity of blood, if he got cut and his mexican opponent mixes their blood while kicking his racist ass? Will his blood be no more pure? Will the white race die out because of it?

There should be no place for that kind of idiots in this sport!!!




Great post. Perhaps this lays it on the line for the ignorant.
rcg916
10/23/07 3:36:54PM

Posted by Sam_Rothstein

that is the tattoo people are talking about on rampage

that dinky little panther?? thats supposed to be a black panther as in the movement? Ive seen white people with that tattoo before

maybe i should tell them that it means black panther.



Jason Williams (basketball player) has almost that exact tattoo. And he is white. I agree with the statement that it is a tattoo OF a black panther. Not FOR the black panthers.

So, enough with the reverse racism garbage. Costa is a lump of shit, Rampage has a cat on his arm for life, but thats where the story ends... Isn't that enough punishment for him?
Sir_Karl
10/23/07 8:02:26PM

Posted by titorican

I could be completely wrong but the name Melvin Costa doesn't sound all that purely 'white' to me. Melvin is possibly supporting a group that hates him!



Correct...I have Costa blood in me. Costa is either Sicilian, Spanish or ironically enough...Jewish.
Sir_Karl
10/23/07 8:11:31PM

Posted by moob


Posted by Sir_Karl

I agree with Irish209.
Race pride is ignorant in my eyes...but we must have consistency.
If you point fingers at Costa than then point them at Rampage as well.
White Pride/Black Pride...same thing.
Hypocrisy and lack of integrity and consistency...pure and simple.
Example...feminism.
Can I start a movement called masculism?
LMAO......yeah right.
The word doesn't even exist.
Black Pride is good and white pride is bad?
In my eyes they are both bad....I used to say "human pride"...but with the state of the world today....I am not proud to be a human.
Freedom of speech remember?
Costa is the one who has to face the critics and the fans....LET HIM WORRY ABOUT IT.



Perhaps you need to read through the thread. Rampage's tattoo is not representative of the Black Panther Party, Costa's is clearly representative of the Nazi Party.

Therefore no one needs to point a finger at Rampage. Engage your brain before posting next time.



Regardless of weather I read the thread or not, your response shows what kind of person you are...engage MY brain...lmao.
moob
10/24/07 10:59:15AM

Posted by Sir_Karl


Posted by moob


Posted by Sir_Karl

I agree with Irish209.
Race pride is ignorant in my eyes...but we must have consistency.
If you point fingers at Costa than then point them at Rampage as well.
White Pride/Black Pride...same thing.
Hypocrisy and lack of integrity and consistency...pure and simple.
Example...feminism.
Can I start a movement called masculism?
LMAO......yeah right.
The word doesn't even exist.
Black Pride is good and white pride is bad?
In my eyes they are both bad....I used to say "human pride"...but with the state of the world today....I am not proud to be a human.
Freedom of speech remember?
Costa is the one who has to face the critics and the fans....LET HIM WORRY ABOUT IT.



Perhaps you need to read through the thread. Rampage's tattoo is not representative of the Black Panther Party, Costa's is clearly representative of the Nazi Party.

Therefore no one needs to point a finger at Rampage. Engage your brain before posting next time.



Regardless of weather I read the thread or not, your response shows what kind of person you are...engage MY brain...lmao.



Your reply has no merit, that's the point I'm getting across in the context of the thread.

Ex: "Black Pride is good and white pride is bad?" has absolutely no relevance here, as the subject of Black Pride was never under discussion.

If I've misinterpreted your post, perhaps you can explain it further?
Sir_Karl
10/24/07 12:02:20PM
To placate someones ego I will admit I didn't read the article...I didn't need to.
I have known Rampages views for years on his tattoo....he has explained it a few times in the past 5 years. As for Costa I seriously doubt his swastika is paying to homage to some ancient Sanskrit ancestry. They both deny any racial or pride meanings to the ink. That is the reason I say point fingers at both.
Let me make this clear as well...I am not comparing the black power movement of the 60s to the white pride movement. Black power was birthed out of oppression and sought equality, while the Nazi ideology promoted racial superiority and used oppression against those deemed inferior. Huge difference obviously.
My point is some groups are allowed more transgressions than others against other races, nationalities and ethnicities.
Rampage could kiss his muscles and scream black superiority...and it would never be looked at the same as a swastika.
Look at what has happened to Micheal Richards, Don Imus and Mel Gibson,
while my all time favorite comedians D.L. Hughley, Richard Pryor, Jamie Foxx, Martin Lawrence and Eddie Murphy make or made a living making fun of whites.
We are portrayed as nerdy, waddling, aloof geeks....that's casual to society...but look what happens when you make a comment about a black or jew.
The swastika surely is offensive to me, as is the Christian cross, the Star of David, the Republican Elephant and the Democrat donkey. Evil is in the eye of the beholder.
Ask a Palestinian what he thinks of the Star of David? How many millions were killed by Christians during the crusades, inquisitions and witch trials? How many millions have died as a result of American foreign policy?
Our allowances and tolerances for racism should be consistent across the board...currently it's not...and it's obvious to those of us who can see through the BS.
rockernhb
10/24/07 4:40:58PM
Melvin Costa's interview wasn't very offensive as far as I'm concerned. He may have ideas that everyone doesn't agree with, but at least he wasn't filling space with racist slurs and white power mumbo jumbo.
XblacksheepX
10/24/07 8:21:25PM

Posted by Sir_Karl

To placate someones ego I will admit I didn't read the article...I didn't need to.
I have known Rampages views for years on his tattoo....he has explained it a few times in the past 5 years.



I didn't. What are they like?


Posted by Sir_Karl
As for Costa I seriously doubt his swastika is paying to homage to some ancient Sanskrit ancestry. They both deny any racial or pride meanings to the ink.



Not true. Read the article!


Posted by Sir_Karl
That is the reason I say point fingers at both.
Let me make this clear as well...I am not comparing the black power movement of the 60s to the white pride movement.



That's exactly what you are doing a few lines down!


Posted by Sir_Karl
My point is some groups are allowed more transgressions than others against other races, nationalities and ethnicities.
Rampage could kiss his muscles and scream black superiority...and it would never be looked at the same as a swastika.



Cause it wouldn't be the same. Rampage wouldn't do it i guess. I remember him makin fun of blacks all day long by the way..


Posted by Sir_Karl
Look at what has happened to Micheal Richards, Don Imus and Mel Gibson,
while my all time favorite comedians D.L. Hughley, Richard Pryor, Jamie Foxx, Martin Lawrence and Eddie Murphy make or made a living making fun of whites.
We are portrayed as nerdy, waddling, aloof geeks....that's casual to society...but look what happens when you make a comment about a black or jew.
The swastika surely is offensive to me, as is the Christian cross, the Star of David, the Republican Elephant and the Democrat donkey. Evil is in the eye of the beholder.
Ask a Palestinian what he thinks of the Star of David? How many millions were killed by Christians during the crusades, inquisitions and witch trials? How many millions have died as a result of American foreign policy?



See? You are not only comparing completely different things, you even say it's symbols are offensive in the same way. You just don't get it.

I know comedians making fun of blacks, jews or gay people and actually it is fun because it's for everyone to see not seriously meant and in a sarcastic way playing their part in societies reality. Taking a joke or being oppressed is AGAIN something completely different. I don't see any joke in that idiot's interview..
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