Liddell Vs. Rua & Griffin Vs. Silva in December?

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snakeplissken
9/25/07 2:35:42AM
The rumors of Chuck Liddell retiring could be greatly exaggerated. John
Hackleman, Liddell's trainer, said this:

"He's already said he'll be back in the gym next Monday, said Hackleman,
who has coached Liddell for 16 years. He's going to fight again,
hopefully as soon as possible, maybe in December. We're looking at
Shogun.

This would mean a HUGE December card, if true. Liddell vs. Rua, Silva vs.
Griffin, and Serra vs Hughes. Could be VERY huge.

Taken from Gerweck.net

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Wow! But then Liddell could seriously be looking at his 3rd loss in a row.
SpiderSilva
9/25/07 2:44:59AM
Well Rua might be good for Chucky Rua wont be able to take him down and lets see Chuck still looks better in the stand up 1 more thing he hit a hell of a lot harder than Forrest
NatedawgThaM
9/25/07 3:00:26AM
Chuck will get killed if Shogun gets his act together..I BELIEVE in Shogun! There were millions of factors going into why he loss...If he isn't aggressive in this fight then the UFC should look into Pride steriod use before they sign these guys because most the fighters UFC signed from Pride have lost that killer aggressive instinct!!!
TOMMYAYO05
9/25/07 3:01:30AM
Yeah i think Rua will take Chuck and i believe Wandi will knock forrest the **** out.If forrest does win....he definetley should have a title fight......right behind the hunnington beach bad boy who already beat him.
CwB
9/25/07 4:49:12AM
I think if shogun looks like he did against forrest and chuck looks like he did against jardine then chuck definately has a chance, shogun gassed and chuck hits way to hard for shogun to take punches like he was against griffin.

and if forrest keeps improving like he has been after every fight win or lose and wandy is gunshy from getting KOed in his last two fights then forest definately has a chance to win this fight too

with this year being the year for the under dog i would be happy for chuck to finally be labeled an under dog. when was the last time chuck was labeled an underdog and dont say when he fought rampage 2 cause according to the casinos chuck was favored.

i am a big fan of all four of these fighters so these would be awesome fights

P.S. does anyone else think that this may just be a complete rumor? and is there any credibility to the wandy vs forest fight or is this website just throwing that in for fun? I have never heard of this website and the layout didnt seem very oficial so i am a little skeptical, and whats the relationship between this website and hackleman?

i am not to sure about all this. please correct me if i am being an uneducated idiot.
buckndro
9/25/07 5:16:27AM

Posted by CwB

I think if shogun looks like he did against forrest and chuck looks like he did against jardine then chuck definately has a chance, shogun gassed and chuck hits way to hard for shogun to take punches like he was against griffin.

and if forrest keeps improving like he has been after every fight win or lose and wandy is gunshy from getting KOed in his last two fights then forest definately has a chance to win this fight too

with this year being the year for the under dog i would be happy for chuck to finally be labeled an under dog. when was the last time chuck was labeled an underdog and dont say when he fought rampage 2 cause according to the casinos chuck was favored.

i am a big fan of all four of these fighters so these would be awesome fights

P.S. does anyone else think that this may just be a complete rumor? and is there any credibility to the wandy vs forest fight or is this website just throwing that in for fun? I have never heard of this website and the layout didnt seem very oficial so i am a little skeptical, and whats the relationship between this website and hackleman?

i am not to sure about all this. please correct me if i am being an uneducated idiot.



point well said i would like to see any of these fights but hoping for alot more from shogun, an would like to hear more news on this
buryyourdead
9/25/07 5:43:57AM
Wanderlie and Shogun need to smarten up and train together if they want to win their fights. They both look alot better when they push each other to keep going in the gym. Shogun looked lost in his first fight after no training with Wanderlei. If Wanderlei is actiually still training with Couture its a different story but I think he should be loyal to his boy and show the UFC what Chute Boxe really is.
jgtribbett
9/25/07 7:13:43AM
this all depends on which shogun comes out. cause the old shogun woulda destroyed the old liddel
Chuteboxer
9/25/07 7:25:34AM
...and the old Wandy would steamroll forrest. I hope both Rua and Wandy are ready for it if it happens.
babytater03
9/25/07 7:31:01AM

Posted by NatedawgThaM

Chuck will get killed if Shogun gets his act together..I BELIEVE in Shogun! There were millions of factors going into why he loss...If he isn't aggressive in this fight then the UFC should look into Pride steriod use before they sign these guys because most the fighters UFC signed from Pride have lost that killer aggressive instinct!!!

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That's a HUGE statement there...
gartface
9/25/07 7:47:32AM

Posted by snakeplissken
This would mean a HUGE December card, if true. Liddell vs. Rua, Silva vs.
Griffin, and Serra vs Hughes. Could be VERY huge.



not to mention bj penn vs sherk/stevenson.
LR
9/25/07 10:10:15AM
That is really the best potential lineup now for a December card, and really, it's better than the alternative. Now we have a Shogun vs. Liddell showdown, Chute Box showdown type of fight where they can hype a Silva-Liddell showdown even more if he beats Shogun. If Shogun wins, he regains some stature and ground in the division again. It's really a win-win.
sparky
9/25/07 10:24:33AM
I think griffin and silva would be an amazing fight....griffin is one of the most improved fighters that is in the mma world today and he has a better then good chance at taken out silva. silva is commin out 2 huge knockouts and u better believe that will effect him big time. As for chuck and sho gun........sho gun looked very sloppy and careless against griffin, and everyone knows what happens if u get sloppy against chuck...........YOU GO TO SLEEP!!!!!!!! the lost to jardine was a big upset i personally think that chuck was still a lil shook up from what rampage did to him, but now has all that outta his system. i would like to see liddell jardine 2 cuz i think that fight was pure bullshit.

so id say:
griffin over silva
chuck over sho gun
bezun
9/25/07 11:56:38AM

Posted by TOMMYAYO05

Yeah i think Rua will take Chuck and i believe Wandi will knock forrest the **** out.If forrest does win....he definetley should have a title fight......right behind the hunnington beach bad boy who already beat him.


There is no way that you believe tito should get a shot. Forrest would most likley take a rematch if tito ever started to get back up into the upper tiers of the division.
loonytnt
9/25/07 11:56:55AM
forrest wins
chuck wins


wandy first fight i dont see him winning and chuck may have lost but shogun coming back off a loss to fight chuck imo would not be the best beat
adamal
9/25/07 12:00:58PM
I think we as fans are getting screwed if we don't get to see Chuck fight Wandy just cause he lost. That's just my opion i really wanted to see that. And Dana hinted that we'd see Shogun/Wandy since they don't train together anymore which would also be awesome.
That said if those fights pan out that would be a monster card!
xphycorx
9/25/07 2:35:24PM
if liddell ends up fighting shogun then he is an idiot. he needs to fight someone of a lower calibur and work his way back up. i know that shogun lost to griffin, but i do believe that shogun is a lot better of fighter than liddell.
FantasyFighter
9/25/07 3:03:13PM
When I think about those supposed match-ups, I get really excited. I mean, its almost impossible not to. That is 4 of the top guys in the 205 lb. division and you probably couldn't go wrong no matter how you mix and match them. However, I think that any match-up other than Liddell vs. Silva would be the greatest disservice Dana White or Joe Silva could do to the MMA community. I mean we are talking about two of the greats who, while they are still in the top tier in their division, are headed towards the ends of their careers. Not to mention that this has to be the most hyped-up, talked about, dream match-up of all time. There have been some other big ones, dont get me wrong, but this one is huge. Now that they both fight for the same organization there should be no reason not to have this as the next fight for both men. To me, it also kind of makes more sense considering that they now they are both coming off back to back losses. I hope Dana White does not let down everyone who has been holding their breath since they purchased PrideFC.
nubby
9/25/07 3:11:12PM

Posted by bezun


Posted by TOMMYAYO05

Yeah i think Rua will take Chuck and i believe Wandi will knock forrest the **** out.If forrest does win....he definetley should have a title fight......right behind the hunnington beach bad boy who already beat him.


There is no way that you believe tito should get a shot. Forrest would most likley take a rematch if tito ever started to get back up into the upper tiers of the division.



After Rua's performance, I believe that Tito still is in the upper Tiers. Tito would have just as easily destroyed Shogun. Tito is bigger than Forrest, probably the only one in the division that is bigger than Forrest. He also has better takedowns and ground game than Forrest. Right now I think there are only three people who can beat Tito: Page, Hendo, Liddell. The rest would all be taken to the ground and pounded out.
CiaoBaby
9/25/07 4:18:52PM
Listen...No one wants to see Griffin vs Silva, or Chuck vs Rua, or Griffin vs Chuck., or Jardine vs Silva...Give us Liddell vs Silva already! I dont care that Jardine beat Chuck! All that other jazz can happen later, just give me Liddell Silva, and Couture Fedor on New Years eve so I can die happy!
originalconspiracy
9/25/07 4:50:14PM

Posted by CiaoBaby

Listen...No one wants to see Griffin vs Silva, or Chuck vs Rua, or Griffin vs Chuck., or Jardine vs Silva...Give us Liddell vs Silva already! I dont care that Jardine beat Chuck! All that other jazz can happen later, just give me Liddell Silva, and Couture Fedor on New Years eve so I can die happy!



agreed.. i want to see silva knock chuck back into a good career. he definitely needs to win his next fight, better hope rua comes at him like he did griffin. silva/griffin would be brutal
jae_1833
9/25/07 4:53:49PM
Not a bad pair of match ups...but I think they should just go with Lidell vs Wandy, they have both recently lost their titles and 2 fights in a row!!!!
bezun
9/25/07 6:34:09PM

Posted by nubby


Posted by bezun


Posted by TOMMYAYO05

Yeah i think Rua will take Chuck and i believe Wandi will knock forrest the **** out.If forrest does win....he definetley should have a title fight......right behind the hunnington beach bad boy who already beat him.


There is no way that you believe tito should get a shot. Forrest would most likley take a rematch if tito ever started to get back up into the upper tiers of the division.



After Rua's performance, I believe that Tito still is in the upper Tiers. Tito would have just as easily destroyed Shogun. Tito is bigger than Forrest, probably the only one in the division that is bigger than Forrest. He also has better takedowns and ground game than Forrest. Right now I think there are only three people who can beat Tito: Page, Hendo, Liddell. The rest would all be taken to the ground and pounded out.



Come On! There is no way that tito can hang in the top. How is he better than shogun. Elaborate. I've never been a big shogun fan but i think it's obvious how he would mangle ortiz. Now ortiz a few years ago would have had a chance, but i'm not sure he could hang now. You think tito can beat wandy again? How would he hang with jardine. You must remember that with age, your reflex and speed goes away and tito has lost some spring in his step. It would be great to see tito move up because i would like to see the build up for a fight with wanderlei. That would be fun.
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