Brendan Schaub Believes a Win Over Nogueira Will Make Him Number One Contender

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FastKnockout
6/14/11 12:03:16AM
UFC heavyweight Brendan Schaub spent a while campaigning for a fight with former Pride and UFC interim heavyweight champion Antonio Rodrigo Nogueira at UFC 134, and Nogueira accepted. While a win over Big Nog would certainly be huge for his career, Schaub might be a little bit off with what he thinks he'll get out of a win - namely, the number one contender's spot at heavyweight. In a video interview with MMA30.tv, he discusses the fight:

It's the toughest test of my career. Nogueira's as tough as they come, I think he's the toughest heavyweight in the division. A win over him puts me right in the number one contender's spot and I'm looking forward to the challenge.

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FastKnockout
6/14/11 12:04:55AM
Schaub is a joke. I can't take him seriously. Hope Big Nog rips one of his limbs off.
Jekyll
6/14/11 12:27:09AM

Posted by FastKnockout

Schaub is a joke. I can't take him seriously. Hope Big Nog rips one of his limbs off.

ok Big Nog as great as he was in Pride has not been a force in the UFC... how does beating someone that is not near the title get you a title shot?
Budgellism
6/14/11 12:29:05AM

Posted by Jekyll


Posted by FastKnockout

Schaub is a joke. I can't take him seriously. Hope Big Nog rips one of his limbs off.

ok Big Nog as great as he was in Pride has not been a force in the UFC... how does beating someone that is not near the title get you a title shot?



It shouldn't
UFC_Fanatic
6/14/11 1:07:26AM
To quote the one and only Mr. Mackey "Schaub, don't do drugs, drugs are bad mmmkay." Seriously, while wins over legends will look good on his record now, and even better in twenty or thirty years when most of our children are watching the sport and aren't aware of what point in their careers these legends were in when he beat them, it still doesn't mean much s**t. Maybe if he were machida or someone like that, wins over fighters who are way passed their primes might earn him a title shot based off his body of work, but seeing as how his body of work is slightly better to what we flush down the toilet, then he still has to string together another two or three wins against guys who mean something right now. If he really wants to be a title contender his next fight assuming he beats big nog, has to be against either Frank Mir or Shane Carwin imo.
Jekyll
6/14/11 1:17:09AM

Posted by UFC_Fanatic

To quote the one and only Mr. Mackey "Schaub, don't do drugs, drugs are bad mmmkay." Seriously, while wins over legends will look good on his record now, and even better in twenty or thirty years when most of our children are watching the sport and aren't aware of what point in their careers these legends were in when he beat them, it still doesn't mean much s**t. Maybe if he were machida or someone like that, wins over fighters who are way passed their primes might earn him a title shot based off his body of work, but seeing as how his body of work is slightly better to what we flush down the toilet, then he still has to string together another two or three wins against guys who mean something right now. If he really wants to be a title contender his next fight assuming he beats big nog, has to be against either Frank Mir or Shane Carwin imo.

i agree and he as as much chance at beating one of them as Bsping has being an american hero
godofdixie
6/14/11 2:44:03AM
brendan schaub a number one contender b/c he beats a washed up big nog? lmao, get in line hybrid. you should at least have to avenge your loss to big country in order to "be in the mix" as dana likes to put it, brendan will make a fine gatekeeper, but he's just not championship material imo
40ouncetpkid
6/14/11 3:22:55AM
lol!

So were just going to pretend that Frank Mir and Shane Carwin don't exist and forget the Roy Nelson brutal KO never happened? LMAO

No...just no Brendan. Crack Cocaine is a helluva drug! You need to beat Mir, Carwin, or Nelson before your even considered...

I really hope Big Nog got one last good show in his system.
BeeR
6/14/11 6:00:20AM
man, I just tooled Cain in undisputed last night, IM the #1 contender.
icantthinkofanything
6/14/11 9:48:37AM
At the moment Nog is not a number 1 contender, and i dont get fights where one winner will become # 1 cont, if they win, and the other will need 2 more fights.
these fights are better i think


Mir vs Schaubb
CC vs Nog
Carwin vs Big Country
emfleek
6/14/11 9:54:12AM
Brendan's been listening to those Trevor Wittman Motivational CDs a bit too much.
Theoutlaw08
6/14/11 10:16:17AM
I think he is higher up than people give him credit for. He has won 4 in a row, yeah against some bums, but still 4 in a row is 4 in a row. However I would absolutley say if (IF) he beats big nog he should not get a title shot, he is still 2 or 3 away. He needs to beat a Carwin or Mir to get there.
Jekyll
6/14/11 10:27:52AM

Posted by Theoutlaw08

I think he is higher up than people give him credit for. He has won 4 in a row, yeah against some bums, but still 4 in a row is 4 in a row. However I would absolutley say if (IF) he beats big nog he should not get a title shot, he is still 2 or 3 away. He needs to beat a Carwin or Mir to get there.

but does beating crap magically make you something other then that?


If you want to fight for the belt you have to beat good fighters, not fighters that were never anyone or are past their prime.
isk
6/14/11 10:37:03AM
Sure, give Schaub a title shot so he gets absolutely tooled by Cain or JDS. Kid's made progress since TUF but I'm still not impressed. Maybe a severe beating will show him just how far behind he still is.
Theoutlaw08
6/14/11 10:46:11AM

Posted by Jekyll


Posted by Theoutlaw08

I think he is higher up than people give him credit for. He has won 4 in a row, yeah against some bums, but still 4 in a row is 4 in a row. However I would absolutley say if (IF) he beats big nog he should not get a title shot, he is still 2 or 3 away. He needs to beat a Carwin or Mir to get there.

but does beating crap magically make you something other then that?


If you want to fight for the belt you have to beat good fighters, not fighters that were never anyone or are past their prime.



I agree. Thats why i said he needs to fight some tougher competition.
prozacnation1978
6/14/11 11:47:13AM
Beating two guys that should have never been in the ufc
Then a gate keeper and two pride legends not in their prime won't make you number one contender

But I do think him vs meat head needs to happen
SamPan
6/14/11 12:14:52PM
After Schaub beats Nogueira I hope he fights Mir. Then the winner should face Brock for #1 contender-status. I think Mir would end Schaub's run thoough and get smashed by Brock again but it would all be fun to watch.
Bubbles
6/14/11 1:32:46PM

Posted by Jekyll


Posted by FastKnockout

Schaub is a joke. I can't take him seriously. Hope Big Nog rips one of his limbs off.

ok Big Nog as great as he was in Pride has not been a force in the UFC... how does beating someone that is not near the title get you a title shot?



it worked for Velasquez
finnish_line
6/14/11 1:35:19PM
If he gets past Nog and beats Mir next he'll be on a streak of Gonzaga, CroCop, Nog, Mir.

That's nothing to sneeze at, and scheduling could put him in that slot after JDS.

It could happen and wouldn't be the worst thing in the world. A lot depends on when Brock returns.

(If he wins in August) I wouldn't match him up with Carwin or Nelson next because they're coming off losses. Winners should fight winners as often as possible to ensure somebody is always at the head of the contender pack.
Bubbles
6/14/11 1:42:46PM
what if the UFC brings over a SF HW? like someone who loses in the semis (ie Barnett vs Kharitonov loser or Bigfoot vs Uberrem/Werdum loser)?

and yes i have absolutely no doubt Barnett will beat Rogers
gartface
6/14/11 2:04:43PM

Posted by emfleek

Brendan's been listening to those Trevor Wittman Motivational CDs a bit too much.


"You are the best at overestimating yourself in the Octagon. Do you believe me when I tell you this?"
emfleek
6/14/11 2:06:02PM

Posted by gartface


Posted by emfleek

Brendan's been listening to those Trevor Wittman Motivational CDs a bit too much.



"You are the best at overestimating yourself in the Octagon. Do you believe me when I tell you this?"



tallica62
6/14/11 3:46:12PM
I quote what the rest of you said...
Adrenaline
6/14/11 6:50:59PM
I don't have anything really new to say so I will just add one more to the "no, just no" catagory.
bjj1605
6/14/11 11:40:03PM
I don't know... I agree that beating Nog won't do it. But it puts him one fight away, not two or three.

If he beats Nog and then Mir or Lesnar (I won't mention Carwin or Nelson. It would be dumb to give either of those fighters a tough fight while they're on losing streaks. We don't wanna lose um) then he would be the Number 1 Contender.

HW isn't that deep. He's got a good streak. This would be a win over another former great (and Gonzaga wasn't to bad at one time either). Plus sometimes you need to give a mid level guy a shot at the title to give the rest of the contenders time to sort out the division.
Jekyll
6/14/11 11:57:10PM

Posted by bjj1605

I don't know... I agree that beating Nog won't do it. But it puts him one fight away, not two or three.

If he beats Nog and then Mir or Lesnar (I won't mention Carwin or Nelson. It would be dumb to give either of those fighters a tough fight while they're on losing streaks. We don't wanna lose um) then he would be the Number 1 Contender.

HW isn't that deep. He's got a good streak. This would be a win over another former great (and Gonzaga wasn't to bad at one time either). Plus sometimes you need to give a mid level guy a shot at the title to give the rest of the contenders time to sort out the division.

a md level fighter should never get a shot just because the contenders are "sorting things out"

the thing is HW is kinda messed up right now... JDS and Cain are fighting next, but brock os out for a while, Carwin just got knocked down the ladder and there is no-one for Mir to fight for a title shot except guys below him on the ladder but i think Mir needs another win for a shot, there just is no-one there...
pmoney
6/15/11 12:14:08AM
Brendan ******* Schaub....

First of all, his nickname is "The Hybrid". He should be disqualified from title contention based on his nickname alone.

Second, his only wins are against nobodies and people purely on the decline of their careers. And from what I recall, he wasn't even doing too good against Cro Cop before he caught him right behind the ******* ear... most anyone will go down getting hit in that area by a heavyweight.

Third, I don't know why everyone is writing off Nogueira here like he is not a legend in the sport. Sure, he lost to Cain and Mir, but those guys are no joke. Current and former champs. He beat Sylvia and Couture (both former multiple time champions). Based on that right there, I say his UFC record is more impressive at 2-2 than Schaub's record. The only person Schaub has beat who hasn't been cut by the UFC is Cro Cop, and he probably should have been cut. (sadly, for the record. Left leg cemetery )

Granted, Nog is clearly on the decline. But not like Gonzaga. Gonzaga was TKO'ed by Couture, Carwin, Werdum, and Junior Dos Santos before he fought Schaub. And Schaub took him to a decision.

Fourth, he needs another fight after this one if he wins. I don't think he will win, and even if he does, I am pretty sure he gets destroyed by anyone who isn't the lowest tier fighter the UFC has.

Give him Pee Wee after Nog! Then let's see what happens.
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